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One of the problems of our electoral system is that the big two parties Labour and Tories, both  believe that they have an almost divine right to rule and no matter what support other parties have they should always follow the lead of the government party or the official opposition.
This is particularly true of Labour , who constantly believe that the other opposition parties  especially Plaid, Greens, SNP and Liberal democrats should vote with them on Labour motions but they have no reason to do like wise 

.…Jeremy Corbyn has invited leaders of the other progressive parties in Parliament to work together, after the leaders of Plaid Cymruthe SNP, the Lib Dems, and Caroline Lucas urged him to back a ‘People’s Vote’.On Wednesday, the People’s Vote-backing parties wrote to the Labour leader saying: “The only way out of this constitutional crisis is to put this decision back to the people.”Last night however MPs rejected a motion calling for a ‘People’s Vote’, with just 85 voting in favour. 334 voted against the motion, after Labour urged MPs to abstain. MPs did however vote to seek to extend Article 50.

So as I wrote Corbyn seems to think that he should be conductor of the REMAIN Orchestra and should pick the music , even when  it is clear he doesn’t really want them to play.

LFF cintinue

The ‘People’s Vote’ motion was proposed by The Independent Group’s Dr Sarah Wollaston, a former Tory. Last night the group wrote to supporters saying Labour abstention was a ‘betrayal of Labour Party members, Labour MPs, Labour’s conference policy and, most importantly, the British public.’The statement said: “Those of our Group who left the Labour Party did so because we believed the hope of changing the leadership’s position on Brexit was gone. Today, sadly, we were proved right. The leadership are determined to deliver Brexit which would harm our country.”Yet the official People’s Vote campaign had also rejected the timing of the move given the lack of a Parliamentary majority.

Well yes, but  how much longer should we wait? Can it be that some in the People’s Voice campaign are more concerned with Rallies  and Protest than trying to actually to have a People’s vote passed in the Commons.

There is still no guarantee that the Tories and their allies, will not pass May’s Deal (On the third attempt)  and we leave on these terms without Labour getting of their backsides and voting for a second referendum.

LFF continue..

…Now however, the leaders of Plaid Cymru , the SNP, the Lib Dems, and Green MP Caroline Lucas, are set to meet Jeremy Corbyn in a renewed push for a public vote on the deal.In a letter seen by Left Foot Forward, the Labour leader responded to People’s Vote-backing party leaders by saying Labour is proposing an: ‘alternative Brexit plan with a permanent customs union, single market deal and dynamic alignment on rights and protections’. But he added that Labour ‘would support a public vote to prevent damaging Brexit proposals.’Mr Corbyn added: 

“We are all aware of how urgent the situation now is” and agreed to meet the group urgently. It is not yet clear when this will take place.Speaking in the Commons after Thursday night’s votes, the Labour leader said:“After the last few days of government chaos and some defeats, all of us now have the opportunity and the responsibility to work together to find a solution to the crisis facing this country, where the government has so dramatically failed to do so.“We have begun to hold meetings with members across the House to find a consensus and a compromise that meets the needs of our country.“But the last few days have also put a responsibility on the Prime Minister. First, to publicly accept that both her deal and no deal are simply no longer viable options. Secondly, to bring forward the necessary legislation to amend the exit date of 29 March.

Again it seems like Labour have a agenda  that does not really back a second referendum, but  Corbyn’s alternative Brexit , in which he does not have the support of his Parliamentary Party, but if the polls are to believed the majority of ordinary members and voters.

Indeed one aspect of the whole Brexit saga, is that whilst the two main party leaders, are actually prepared to argue for Brexit cannot command the support of the rest of their MPs.

Indeed if it was left to Corbyn and May alone I suspect a Brexit deal would have passed months ago.


The cross-party letter in full:Dear Jeremy,We are pleased to see that the Labour Party has committed to working with Members across the House to find a way to break the Brexit deadlock now that the House has overwhelmingly rejected the Prime Minister’s deal a number of times, and ruled out leaving the EU without a deal at all.We believe that the only way out of this constitutional crisis is to put this decision back to the people through a People’s Vote on the deal, with the option to remain, as agreed at your party conference.We hope therefore that you will join us for a meeting of the various parties in the House that are supporting a People’s Vote, to coordinate our approach and maximise the chances of success.We look forward to your response.Yours sincerely,Liz Saville Roberts MP –  Westminster Group Leader, Plaid CymruIan Blackford MP – Leader of the Scottish National Party (Westminster)Sir Vince Cable MP – Leader of the Liberal DemocratsCaroline Lucas MP – Green Party

I suspect if the above did turn up too meet the Labour leader , al they would get is him telling them to support his Brexit .
When are we going to realise that whether Blair or Corbyn  Labout believe that other progressive parties should follow their lead.
In Scotland they can no longer do this has the SNP have seized the conductors baton.
Wales needs to do the same the UK political system is broken and can not be repaired, it’s tim it was ended.